To be honest the amount of free stuff some armies can get now us stupid anyway. No one needs needs testing to understand that changing a gun from Str 3 to Str 7 will make it better at killing tanks. Fun, for me, is adapting to this rule in order to push the game to new possibilities if I’m using The Horror, or, if I’m facing them, inventing or learning ways to overcome them as an opponent. How is it different than war con? >Before anyone gets a chance to even try them out? Of course, the downside here is making large changes to an army, not to mention that Pink Horrors lost access to Malefic daemonology, so you are just making them worse. They are pretty quick with answers these days. It is definitely based on the emotion people attach to their experience with the game, but that is also how most people make their decisions for votes anyway. We have always been at war with Eastasia. “how many free points are you getting”) the comparison doesn’t even come close. 2. We made the video before the FAQ came out, even posted the video before. Good at: Casting psychic powers. The new “Split” rule allows all Pink Horrors killed in a phase to spawn 2 Blue Horrors. Even a regular 5 man tactical squad is likely to wipe these units of brimstone horrors in one combat since the average of 4 inflicted wounds causes a negative 8 to leadership (thanks to them being 2 wound models) for demonic instability. For the record, I strongly believe that ITC should refrain from entertaining the nerfing of any single unit entry, and instead focus on abusive USR’s, and adjusting missions like they have, like invisibility and the 2++ re-roll. So for Tau we should extensively test things before making rulings, but for other armies we should apply our logic and nerf things before the codex is even out? I personally think there should be a “If the game does not complete a full 4 turns both players receive a loss for this round.” rule in competitive play. Man, I don’t think anyone wants to see the top tables at the LVO dominated by tons of grey plastic horrors. This solves a lot of issues from Split, and suddenly, we don’t all have to see 80 Pink Horrors on the table and 160 (or 240) Blue Horrors. In the rulebook it says: "When wounded, a Pink Horror... bla bla bla... and divides into into two Blue Horrors" And then there's a designer note that says that 2 Blue Horrors can be represented by 1 Pink Horror. I personally want the ITC team, or LVO judges, to make a temporary ruling and then allow the wider community to come to a consensus given time to play it. 8th Edition will force all Eldar players to pay their opponents $500 before a match, as renumeration for past atrocities. The unit of Pink Horrors can cast one spell and unbind one per turn. I mean this genuinely, guys, but as someone who already has to fight IMPERIAL KNIGHTS WITH TAU RIPTIDE ALLIES, Tons-of-free-point-battle-company, unkillable bark-bark star, double knight double stealth shrouded warconvocation, multiple wraith knight, multiple warp spider… etc. Almost unlimited model counts – combining Split with Summoning – and time limits simply do not mix. Allowing for the space marines to charge and wipe them due to deamonic instability. No daisy chaining. 1. Models would still proliferate, but WC wouldn’t, it would be more difficult to daisy-chain them out, they wouldn’t cause Shooting/Assault Phase headaches, and it would be easier to finish them off with Instability. It is a similar rule from Age of Sigmar. I assume the sense of urgency is due to LVO being just two months away. I will back up my stated opinion on that one. For them to split, they have to be in range of shooting and/or assault, the last place anyone who uses pink horrors wants them to be. That line is only there for models that existed before daemonology was a thing. It isn’t completely advocating for any one solution or even a solution at all, as the above mentions. There is a paragraph in the article that actually addresses many of your points. We did a learner session and he played Pink Horrors.. These units spawn at the end of a PHASE, not turn, so if you shoot at Pink Horrors, the spawned Blue Horrors can stop you from charging in the assault phase as they are a separate unit and thus cannot be a legal target for a charge, and you could have never shot them to be able to make them a legal target, so charge blocking for the win. Sure, you don’t have to always kill them immediately, but as they are in fact troops (and will have either ObSec or Corruption in almost all lists), you can’t really afford to ignore them the whole game- and if you don’t get started on shooting/assaulting them until turn 3 or 4, that just makes your job harder, since you still have the issue of needing a minimum of three phases to kill any one unit of Horrors. The Eldar codex doesn’t say they can’t use Maelific Daemonology. On one hand, we can leave it all alone. I know it’s not what the FLG team wants to hear, but I propose we do nothing until people have a chance to get the rules and play with it. Also the immediately comes in was right there too. For example, if you managed to get cursed earth, the aura cast from a large unit spread out is enough to buff your whole army or pinpoint deep strike reinforcements. Chaos Wizards know the Summon Pink Horrors spell, in addition to any others they know. It even says all models within 6″ at the bottom. You’re screaming into a void of other people screaming. I… I hate to think this will sway anything, and I hope it doesn’t. Adam from TFG Radio and SaltyJohn walk us through the new Pink Horrors as found in Wrath of Magnus, and their new Split rule. I’m just naturally opposed to nerfing rules before most people have a chance to experience them. Drama about 40K! If you were to keep the “Split” rule I would propose the following changes: “Split – created” units must be placed wholly within 6″ At Initiative step 1 an enemy that is/was in combat with the unit takes a s2 AP- hit per counter. 2014 Las Vegas Open Warmachine and Hordes Events and Results! The split models are daisy chained Their ability to control and contest as well as survive hails of fire through Split by just creating more units, many, if not all, armies will struggle against them. 8th Edition will make Summoning take from your point total. Very simple, still incredibly good, and maybe not game breaking? /s. TOs should set a free points limit, to cover formation bonuses, summoning etc. We had the actual rule. . If you’re going for some Pink Horrors, don’t forget to grab a set of Blue Horrors & Brimstone Horrors too – you’ll need them for when they split! Pink Horrors are fairly cheap and enjoyed an 8 point drop over the last codex. So I don’t have access to the book yet but I read that the split rule is not actually a rule on the pink horror sheet but on the blue horrors. My question is….where can we buy blue horror and brimstone horror models anyway? The FAQ did not even exist when the video was posted to YouTube. We all got over those. If the Blue Horrors get shot, and not wiped out, and create Brimstone Horrors you now have 3 dice when you originally had 3. I also believe that it is highly irresponsible on the part of the editors to publish opinion pieces like this before the book is released to the public. You keep getting the rule wrong. This will make the meta shift from shooting to fighty, which helps out weaker builds. I am 99.9% certain you will see them released in some form in December, January at the latest. Probably the best idea is to pick for instance Cyle Thompson Flying Monkey list or Alan Brajamovic LVO list and make a truly experiment. “Split – created” units can be assaulted if the “parent” unit was the target of the shooting attack. I don’t think free blue horrors are equal to free rerolls vs armour, hatred and fearless, or free upgrades on a knight. That was the crux of the resistance to Daemon summoning farms. Since the saves were unmodified this compounded the problem. That’s just insane. The actual rule mentions pinks becoming blues. There just aren’t the turns to get through this volume of stuff. I can see how the pink>blue>brimstone creates some board control, but it doesn’t sound like the split units are obsec. I must agree with Cephalobeard. the very least you can take in most detachments) generate as many “free” points as a an entire Battle Company does on their own. Here are my reasons: – summoning is gone unless they got the one on change. The fact that a unit entry has a list of tables the model is allowed to generate powers on, not having demonology listed would very much count as, “unless otherwise stated.”. Unless, of course, the prospect of playing a game by the rules as intended makes you stick your hand in a meat grinder, drink bleach, or abuse some puppies, in which case I sincerely suggest you seek the services of a therapist. My intention here was to show that even though Horrors now cost points, they are a very point efficient way to provide an army with multiple tactical options. I’m not saying that we must ban all Pink Horrors from the game immediately- I’m saying that it is pretty trivially easy to determine how they are going to play out in practice and the negative play experiences this will likely cause for most opponents. This is just a unit that is resistant to shooting. Don’t shoot at them here and there. The horrors get smacked and lose 5 to shooting. Pink Horrors splitting hasn’t been tested, at least since 2nd edition (Codex Chaos, published 1996, pg 59, to be exact – shows how long I’ve played this game as I have it in front of me) and there weren’t many complaints about it back then. Any spawned Blues or Brimstone horrors are part of the unit that spawned it, and placed immediately (instead of at the end of the phase). They endeavor to remain as … Any decent volume of dice will cull the unit, sure it will be replaced, but by a weaker more venerable unit. Hey, have you ever tried shoving your hand into a meat grinder? +1 to this. Why are we not addressing free stuff for war con or battle companies while we are at it? Also this wasn’t written as an FLG official. I believe it will be a good meta changing, but not is such a deep way, as many want do believe. I am sure people have reached out via private channels as I know people have reached out via the FB pages. It is an Op Ed piece. Typically Reece and the crew are more restrained with respect to nerfing things than they appear to be in this case. They create a new unit, and must be placed within 6 inches of the Pink Horror unit. Or am I overestimating the impact? Or drinking bleach? The second and third portions of the video walk through ways to handle the unit, including how the Blue Horrors can be used to block off potential charges. Either DInstability them or make sure there’s no room within 6 of the last model. If I may elaborate, I think that if Pink Horrors can no longer access the daemonology tree, they don’t get any better than they used to be, rather their role is more restricted to a quirky yet fun rule that you have to admit, is totally unique in the game and completely changes the landscape of the board in a transformatively disruptive way. Alright, then, let’s use numbers since you seem to believe numbers: Pink Horrors are, point-for-point, the hardest troop to kill in the game. Leave it as is unless it proves too much in actual games. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/03/wrath-of-magnus-faq/. This is a way to put CSM in a competitive way, since nobody will play in a competitive tournaments, with 9 squads os 20 pink horrors. Then I had a thought.. Only battle company can have tons of free points and be devoid of all fun to play against! This is how we build bridges, buildings, cities, circumnavigate the globe, invent the internet, and go to the moon. 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